Ron Johnson on building Apple Stores with Steve Jobs

The Apple Store pioneer shares how he defied retail predictions and created a new model for physical retail.

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Ron Johnson on building Apple Stores with Steve Jobs

The Apple Store pioneer shares how he defied retail predictions and created a new model for physical retail.

In brief

The Apple Store pioneer shares how he defied retail predictions and created a new model for physical retail. Ron Johnson bet on physical stores when everyone predicted online shopping would kill retail, and built Apple Stores into giants by focusing on customer experience rather than transactions. Originally reported…

The risky bet on physical stores

Apple cube in front of Apple's flagship Apple Fifth Avenue retail store

When Ron Johnson joined Apple in 2000, he was tasked with building physical stores. Everyone predicted online shopping would replace in-person retail, making it a huge gamble.

Apple Stores became retail giants

Despite the skepticism, Johnson's strategy worked. Apple Stores grew into retail powerhouses that transformed how people shop for technology and experience brands.

Working with Steve Jobs

Johnson shares insights into what it was like collaborating with Steve Jobs on the Apple Store vision and strategy during his time at the company.

New book details the strategy

New book details the strategy

Johnson's new book, "Shop Different," details the strategy behind Apple Stores and offers a broad look at his entire retail career spanning multiple companies.

Leadership lessons beyond retail

In a live Q&A, Johnson discusses retail strategies, leadership principles, and answers viewer questions about building successful customer-focused businesses.

Here's the gist

Ron Johnson bet on physical stores when everyone predicted online shopping would kill retail, and built Apple Stores into giants by focusing on customer experience rather than transactions.

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